How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

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ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

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— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Sain (a barber)

Why do men first look at a woman's chest instead of their face?

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Why do we often have strong feelings for our twin flames, even if they don't feel the same way? Is there a way to make them realize their true feelings for us?

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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Raamaanand Jee, First House:

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

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ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

NOW…

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

CONCLUSION:

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Now here in this verse

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

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My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I am like a fish out of water,

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

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ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Kabir (a weaver)

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

then who is there to know what happens without?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥